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	<title>Comments on: More On Revealing Surnames Using Genetic Genealogy</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Buckner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Buckner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This sounds good in theory, but in practice it&#039;s turning out to be more complicated. In my case, I got 24 different perfect matches in the Genebase database for 18 markers or more (including 19/19, 20/20, and 24/24). Only two of those had the same surname. On Ysearch (which is full of relatively useless 12 marker tests) I get dozens of 12/12 matches. If you go by conventional wisdom on TMRCA calcuations, those 18/18 matches should all have around a 40-50% chance of being within a dozen generations or so, but this seems to imply the absurdity that on average I have 12 different surname matches. I have seen suggestions that the modality of common haplogroups (I&#039;m the extremely common R1b) radically alters TMRCA probablities from the conventional models that the commercial testers use (http://www.jogg.info/42/files/Nordtvedt.htm, q.v.), and I&#039;m starting to think that there is really something very wrong with the statistics in these models as they pertain to surname searches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds good in theory, but in practice it&#8217;s turning out to be more complicated. In my case, I got 24 different perfect matches in the Genebase database for 18 markers or more (including 19/19, 20/20, and 24/24). Only two of those had the same surname. On Ysearch (which is full of relatively useless 12 marker tests) I get dozens of 12/12 matches. If you go by conventional wisdom on TMRCA calcuations, those 18/18 matches should all have around a 40-50% chance of being within a dozen generations or so, but this seems to imply the absurdity that on average I have 12 different surname matches. I have seen suggestions that the modality of common haplogroups (I&#8217;m the extremely common R1b) radically alters TMRCA probablities from the conventional models that the commercial testers use (<a href="http://www.jogg.info/42/files/Nordtvedt.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jogg.info/42/files/Nordtvedt.htm</a>, q.v.), and I&#8217;m starting to think that there is really something very wrong with the statistics in these models as they pertain to surname searches.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Stephenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Stephenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[will you still talk to me Blaine?  i would like some conversation about my ancestry. email me soon.
Marie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will you still talk to me Blaine?  i would like some conversation about my ancestry. email me soon.<br />
Marie</p>
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		<title>By: Eve B Mayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve B Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can a group of descendants whose common ancestor is less than 12 generations back use DNA to sort out which of this ancestor&#039;s children was their forebear? The records in Virginia are burned &amp; confirming kinship has been a brick wall for family researcher for more than sixty years.
Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a group of descendants whose common ancestor is less than 12 generations back use DNA to sort out which of this ancestor&#8217;s children was their forebear? The records in Virginia are burned &amp; confirming kinship has been a brick wall for family researcher for more than sixty years.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Honoring Our Ancestors Newsletter</title>
		<link>http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/10/20/more-on-revealing-surnames-using-genetic-genealogy/comment-page-1/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Honoring Our Ancestors Newsletter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] For those who ask about adoptees being able to use DNA testing to learn about their roots . . . More On Revealing Surnames Using Genetic Genealogy &#187; The Genetic Genealogist [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Genetic Genealogy Tidbits &#187; The Genetic Genealogist</title>
		<link>http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/10/20/more-on-revealing-surnames-using-genetic-genealogy/comment-page-1/#comment-2522</link>
		<dc:creator>Genetic Genealogy Tidbits &#187; The Genetic Genealogist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Genetic Genealogist Adding DNA to the Genealogist&#8217;s Toolbox   Skip to content HomeAboutAbout Genetic GenealogyArchivesFeatured ArticlesRoots Television - DNA Channel     &#171; More On Revealing Surnames Using Genetic Genealogy [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Blaine Bettinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Bettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marie - I know you&#039;ve been pretty unhappy with the results of your genetic genealogy test, so I&#039;m going to contact you privately to help you as much as I can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie &#8211; I know you&#8217;ve been pretty unhappy with the results of your genetic genealogy test, so I&#8217;m going to contact you privately to help you as much as I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Stephenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Stephenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, now that i&#039;ve got my dna where do i go from here?  Joseph Renshaw was born 1815 Eng. and Niall lived 2000 years earlier and nere the twain shall meet.  the first record i have for Joseph was when he got married in 1838 Lancaster Ohio to Hannah Wright.   

Marie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, now that i&#8217;ve got my dna where do i go from here?  Joseph Renshaw was born 1815 Eng. and Niall lived 2000 years earlier and nere the twain shall meet.  the first record i have for Joseph was when he got married in 1838 Lancaster Ohio to Hannah Wright.   </p>
<p>Marie</p>
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		<title>By: Sandwalk: Adoptees use DNA to find surname</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandwalk: Adoptees use DNA to find surname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] points to a commercial company runnnig a program for adoptees with a success rate of more than 30% [More On Revealing Surnames Using Genetic Genealogy]. I think it&#039;s about time we started to think about the [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Family Genealogy and Family Tree Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Family Genealogy and Family Tree Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Last week I wrote about using genetic pedigree databases to spot someone&#039;s surname (see &quot;DNA Could Reveal Your Surname, Of Course.&quot;) The section discussed fallout from researcher Dr. Turi King which optional that there is a 24% to..[more].   The new incomer can kiss all those luxuries good-bye. Ironically, I am panicky about tiresome my hand at them. (moreâ€¦)&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->Last week I wrote about using genetic pedigree databases to spot someone&#8217;s surname (see &#8220;DNA Could Reveal Your Surname, Of Course.&#8221;) The section discussed fallout from researcher Dr. Turi King which optional that there is a 24% to..[more].   The new incomer can kiss all those luxuries good-bye. Ironically, I am panicky about tiresome my hand at them. (moreâ€¦)<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: LVB.net - Citaten</title>
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		<dc:creator>LVB.net - Citaten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;of Benjaman Kyle &quot;, stelde ik voor dat een Y-DNA-test zou kunnen helpen bij het vinden van de biologische achternaam van de heer Kyle. Y-DNA-onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat het zeer nuttig is voor het identificeren van onbekende namen (zie hier enhier), en dus ik nam ik contact op met de heer Kyle om die mogelijkheid te suggereren. Kort daarna liet de heer Kyle een 67-marker-test uitvoeren door Family Tree DNA. De resultaten, aangekondigd door Kimberly Powell van Kimberly&#039;s Genealogie Blog,&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->of Benjaman Kyle &#8220;, stelde ik voor dat een Y-DNA-test zou kunnen helpen bij het vinden van de biologische achternaam van de heer Kyle. Y-DNA-onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat het zeer nuttig is voor het identificeren van onbekende namen (zie hier enhier), en dus ik nam ik contact op met de heer Kyle om die mogelijkheid te suggereren. Kort daarna liet de heer Kyle een 67-marker-test uitvoeren door Family Tree DNA. De resultaten, aangekondigd door Kimberly Powell van Kimberly&#8217;s Genealogie Blog,<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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