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More On Revealing Surnames Using Genetic Genealogy

October 20th, 2008 in DNA Articles |

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Last week I wrote about using genetic genealogy databases to identify someone’s surname (see “DNA Could Reveal Your Surname, Of Course.”)  The article discussed results from researcher Dr. Turi King which suggested that there is a 24% to 50% chance that two men who share the same surname share a common ancestor through that name, with chances increasing if the surname is rare.

Somehow I completely missed “Adoptees use DNA to find surname“, an article at BBC News this June.  Men who were adopted as children are using genetic genealogy databases in an attempt to identify their biological surname.  This is Dr. King’s research in motion.  Family Tree DNA, for example, has a project for Adopted people that is over 2 years old, and has a success rate of more than 30%, thanks in large part to their database of over 130,000 records.  From Bennett Greenspan:

“We now have a growing number of people who are adopted, who have tested with us and have matched several individuals with a particular surname, and maybe they haven’t matched anyone else with a different surname. From that, they can get the idea that they have at least found the surname they need to start looking for in the town in which they were born.”

The BBC article ends with Mark Jobling predicting what will happen in the future as technology opens doors for adopted individuals, stating that “tests offering better resolution on the whole genome should be able to solve other familial puzzles.”

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10 Responses to “ More On Revealing Surnames Using Genetic Genealogy ”

  1. # 1 Family Genealogy and Family Tree Blog Says:
    October 20th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Last week I wrote about using genetic pedigree databases to spot someone’s surname (see “DNA Could Reveal Your Surname, Of Course.”) The section discussed fallout from researcher Dr. Turi King which optional that there is a 24% to..[more]. The new incomer can kiss all those luxuries good-bye. Ironically, I am panicky about tiresome my hand at them. (more…)

  2. # 2 LVB.net - Citaten Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am

    of Benjaman Kyle “, stelde ik voor dat een Y-DNA-test zou kunnen helpen bij het vinden van de biologische achternaam van de heer Kyle. Y-DNA-onderzoek heeft aangetoond dat het zeer nuttig is voor het identificeren van onbekende namen (zie hier enhier), en dus ik nam ik contact op met de heer Kyle om die mogelijkheid te suggereren. Kort daarna liet de heer Kyle een 67-marker-test uitvoeren door Family Tree DNA. De resultaten, aangekondigd door Kimberly Powell van Kimberly’s Genealogie Blog,

  3. # 3 Sandwalk: Adoptees use DNA to find surname Says:
    October 20th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

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  4. # 4 Marie Stephenson Says:
    October 21st, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    well, now that i’ve got my dna where do i go from here? Joseph Renshaw was born 1815 Eng. and Niall lived 2000 years earlier and nere the twain shall meet. the first record i have for Joseph was when he got married in 1838 Lancaster Ohio to Hannah Wright.

    Marie

  5. # 5 Blaine Bettinger Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 am

    Marie – I know you’ve been pretty unhappy with the results of your genetic genealogy test, so I’m going to contact you privately to help you as much as I can.

  6. # 6 Genetic Genealogy Tidbits » The Genetic Genealogist Says:
    October 22nd, 2008 at 8:13 am

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  7. # 7 Honoring Our Ancestors Newsletter Says:
    February 26th, 2009 at 11:22 pm

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  8. # 8 Eve B Mayes Says:
    March 15th, 2009 at 8:59 am

    How can a group of descendants whose common ancestor is less than 12 generations back use DNA to sort out which of this ancestor’s children was their forebear? The records in Virginia are burned & confirming kinship has been a brick wall for family researcher for more than sixty years.
    Thanks!

  9. # 9 Marie Stephenson Says:
    March 15th, 2009 at 9:56 am

    will you still talk to me Blaine? i would like some conversation about my ancestry. email me soon.
    Marie

  10. # 10 Ben Buckner Says:
    June 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    This sounds good in theory, but in practice it’s turning out to be more complicated. In my case, I got 24 different perfect matches in the Genebase database for 18 markers or more (including 19/19, 20/20, and 24/24). Only two of those had the same surname. On Ysearch (which is full of relatively useless 12 marker tests) I get dozens of 12/12 matches. If you go by conventional wisdom on TMRCA calcuations, those 18/18 matches should all have around a 40-50% chance of being within a dozen generations or so, but this seems to imply the absurdity that on average I have 12 different surname matches. I have seen suggestions that the modality of common haplogroups (I’m the extremely common R1b) radically alters TMRCA probablities from the conventional models that the commercial testers use (http://www.jogg.info/42/files/Nordtvedt.htm, q.v.), and I’m starting to think that there is really something very wrong with the statistics in these models as they pertain to surname searches.

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