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Using DNA to Examine James Madison’s Family Tree

August 27th, 2008 in DNA Companies |

imageAccording to a 200-year-old family legend, Bettye Kearse – an African American – is the direct descendant of James Madison.  Madison, of course, was a founding father and fourth President of the United States.  As the story goes, he fathered a child name Jim with a slave cook named Coreen.  For the past 4 years she and genetic genealogist Bruce Jackson of the Roots Project have tried to use DNA to prove or disprove a story passed through 5 generations of the family.

Unfortunately, Kearse and Jackson have been unable to obtain DNA samples from Madison’s descendants, stating that they have been “neither sincere nor forthcoming in this effort.”  The president of the National Society of Madison Family Descendants, Frederick M. Smith, cited confidentiality concerns and declined to comment.

An article in the Washington Post describes the situation.  According to Smith, “his society has received several claims of family ties to the president over the years and those wishing to test their DNA against that of a Madison family descendant can do so through an online genetic testing service, a method he called objective and without racial bias.”  However, Jackson called the approach “scientifically flawed.”  I disagree with Jackson; this method would clearly shed light on the question.  Of course a negative result will mean more research and testing, but a positive result would really get the ball rolling.  I also don’t believe that Jackson’s lab or organization should perform the comparison; it clearly should be a neutral third party.

The Madison Society has suggested that Family Tree DNA be used to compare Kearse’s DNA to DNA from an anonymous Madison descendant.  According to the article, Jackson maintains that “there was no way to verify, genetically or historically, whether the so-called Madison DNA being used for the test would be valid. If the test came back negative, he said, it would prove nothing, but Kearse’s claim might still be dismissed as false.”

Of course, traveling down the Madison family tree is not the only direction to go.  I’m sure Kearse will be able to identify a distant Madison relative who will be willing to submit a DNA sample.  Indeed, in December, “Jackson traveled to England to meet with a British genealogist in hopes of locating a descendant of Madison’s great-great-grandfather, John Maddison Sr., a ship’s carpenter who emigrated to Virginia in the 1650s.”

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10 Responses to “ Using DNA to Examine James Madison’s Family Tree ”

  1. # 1 Genea-Musings Says:
    August 31st, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Conference Blog. Paula provides a list of the available podcasts and links to the FGS Conference Podcast blog site too. This is the first I’ve heard of these podcasts – I hope they stay posted online. *Using DNA to Examine James Madison’s Family Treeby Blaine Bettinger on The Genetic Genealogist blog. Blaine discusses DNA testing to determine if an African-American lady is a direct descendant of our 4th President. An interesting post! * Social Networks and Genealogy: Part 1

  2. # 2 MoSGA Messenger Says:
    August 28th, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Actually, nobody knows for certain if President Madison had black descendants– and how does one prove it one way or another when known Madison descendants have elected not to submit to genetic testing?LINK

  3. # 3 ashok Says:
    August 28th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Wandered in via Problogger – very much enjoyed this bit of news.

    I do wish you had fleshed out motives for why the Madison descendants refused the testing; I can’t imagine that they hate science or history. I imagine the complaint has something to do with DNA alone not linking the descendants to James Madison directly, but any other Madison, and being used as “evidence” for any myth people want to create or allegation they want to launch. But that’s just conspiracy theory on my part – such things don’t happen, do they?

    ashok’s last blog post..Links, Russia-Georgia Conflict Edition, 8/28/2008

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    September 1st, 2008 at 3:09 am

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  5. # 5 morgan Says:
    May 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    i dont think that that is true! >:(

  6. # 6 Kariyerrusya Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 5:58 am

    i dont know what is it.

  7. # 7 Jim Says:
    January 7th, 2011 at 3:29 am

    I’m a Madison descendent, I’ll give DNA to find my black family members.

  8. # 8 marissa Says:
    February 14th, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    It tells you nothing about his family really

  9. # 9 Tim Says:
    April 23rd, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    To my understanding, the only thing substantiated by DNA in the Thomas Jefferson matter was that some Jefferson family male had fathered a child in the slave population. It is worrisome to me that Madison’s descendants’ motives have been so readily portrayed as suspect. Can we assume the people seeking the DNA data have entirely pure motives? Can we make similar assumptions about the fawning readiness of “Jim” to assume he has “black family members” ????????? I’d say the rancorous Thomas Jefferson controversy was reason enough to inspire caution in the Madison family.

  10. # 10 Tim Says:
    April 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    And by the way, while I may be mistaken, I believe “descendant” is actually the correct spelling of the word.

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